Comments on: Would you want a locked youth detention centre in your neighbourhood? http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/ Gazette Fri, 17 May 2013 12:59:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Frustrated! http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-37073 Frustrated! Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:09:59 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-37073 Another failed rehabilitation by Batshaw further placing the public at risk. This is reality, these are the facts: http://westislandgazette.com/news/story/2013/02/01/120390/ Another failed rehabilitation by Batshaw further placing the public at risk. This is reality, these are the facts:
http://westislandgazette.com/news/story/2013/02/01/120390/

]]> By: CONCERNED CITIZEN http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-20112 CONCERNED CITIZEN Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:50:24 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-20112 TO: Miss Barbara Clarkin Usually, I do not get involved in these kinds of things. After having read this story, I have changed my mind entirely. I will only post the things that seem to be most pertinent and urgently related to this article: God forbid that you ignore these clear messages about how our children are being harmed and by whom: http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/quebec-foster-care-concerns/16az61g1n http://www.wattpad.com/6830532-the-government%27s-child-chapter-twentysix-a-letter http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8275037699/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/montreal/story.html?id=ccb07dcf-2cd8-4f3d-9afc-5033557a811e http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8278947837/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.examiner.com/article/batshaw-the-office-of-the-local-service-quality-and-complaints-commissioner http://www.montrealgazette.com/Pregnant+woman+sues+Batshaw+social+worker/7281624/story.html http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=35425d60-48c1-4fb8-a78e-6cecfff471bb&k=25940 This last one is in French - but I am convinced that it relates very much to the debate at hand - as this is an account of a young Quebec - Canada - CHILD - who was suffering from a simple and NONFATAL blood infection and who DIED as her condition worsened - this while staff IGNORED her condition. STAFF JUST LIKE THE ONE'S YOU JUST READ. This poor poor child DIED excruciatingly - while apparently being PROTECTED by the Government of Quebec ( IN A CLOSED YOUTH PROTECTION CHILDRENS FACILITY""" JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT BATSHAW WANTS TO EMBED / BUILD IN DORVAL QUEBEC). The staff of the CENTER watched her as she SLOWLY and painfully DIED ...... which staff were ever so professional so as to SCIENTIFICALLY indicate at what times she DEFICATED - URINATED and VOMITED all over herself - repeatedly - and how many times that this happened - BEFORE SHE ACTUALLY DIES. WOULD YOU WANT YOUR OR YOUR NEIGHBORS CHILD TO GO THROUGH THIS? GOD HELP YOU IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES! http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/201109/21/01-4450060-deces-de-rebecca-levesque-dans-un-centre-jeunesse-seule-face-a-la-mort.php http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Quebec/2012/10/22/004-rebecca-levesque-poursuite.shtml?fb_action_ids=377348015678528&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366 http://sosquebec.com/ GOD FORBID ANYONE WHO IS PART OF THIS INSANITY ................ but we as citizens WILL NOT condone these things any more! WE VALUE THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN 1,000,000% UNQUESTIONABLY. TO: Miss Barbara Clarkin

Usually, I do not get involved in these kinds of things. After having read this story, I have changed my mind entirely.

I will only post the things that seem to be most pertinent and urgently related to this article:

God forbid that you ignore these clear messages about how our children are being harmed and by whom:

http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/quebec-foster-care-concerns/16az61g1n

http://www.wattpad.com/6830532-the-government%27s-child-chapter-twentysix-a-letter

http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8275037699/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/montreal/story.html?id=ccb07dcf-2cd8-4f3d-9afc-5033557a811e

http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8278947837/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://www.examiner.com/article/batshaw-the-office-of-the-local-service-quality-and-complaints-commissioner

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Pregnant+woman+sues+Batshaw+social+worker/7281624/story.html

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=35425d60-48c1-4fb8-a78e-6cecfff471bb&k=25940

This last one is in French – but I am convinced that it relates very much to the debate at hand – as this is an account of a young Quebec – Canada – CHILD – who was suffering from a simple and NONFATAL blood infection and who DIED as her condition worsened – this while staff IGNORED her condition. STAFF JUST LIKE THE ONE’S YOU JUST READ.

This poor poor child DIED excruciatingly – while apparently being PROTECTED by the Government of Quebec ( IN A CLOSED YOUTH PROTECTION CHILDRENS FACILITY”"” JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT BATSHAW WANTS TO EMBED / BUILD IN DORVAL QUEBEC). The staff of the CENTER watched her as she SLOWLY and painfully DIED …… which staff were ever so professional so as to SCIENTIFICALLY indicate at what times she DEFICATED – URINATED and VOMITED all over herself – repeatedly – and how many times that this happened – BEFORE SHE ACTUALLY DIES. WOULD YOU WANT YOUR OR YOUR NEIGHBORS CHILD TO GO THROUGH THIS? GOD HELP YOU IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES!

http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/201109/21/01-4450060-deces-de-rebecca-levesque-dans-un-centre-jeunesse-seule-face-a-la-mort.php

http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/Quebec/2012/10/22/004-rebecca-levesque-poursuite.shtml?fb_action_ids=377348015678528&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=246965925417366

http://sosquebec.com/

GOD FORBID ANYONE WHO IS PART OF THIS INSANITY ……………. but we as citizens WILL NOT condone these things any more! WE VALUE THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN 1,000,000% UNQUESTIONABLY.

]]> By: betty lecompte http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-19301 betty lecompte Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:51:08 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-19301 @ Mother of 2 IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN BY ""STANDING UP FOR THESE KIDS""? I'VE READ YOUR POSTS SO FAR, AND HAVE NOTHING TO SAY AGAINST THEM OR ANYONE ELSE'S....... BUT IF YOU ARE WILLING TO ""IGNORE THESE NEWS REPORTS"", THEN I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR BETTER JUDGEMENT: and even more so when it comes to the safety and welfare of your children BUT IF YOU READ THESE NEWS REPORTS AND YOU THEREAFTER "ACT RESPONSIBLY"..... YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE THE ONES TO GAIN IN THE LONG RUN ! WHY JOIN A SINKING SHIP? http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/quebec-foster-care-concerns/16az61g1n http://www.wattpad.com/6830532-the-government%27s-child-chapter-twentysix-a-letter http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8275037699/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8278947837/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.examiner.com/article/batshaw-the-office-of-the-local-service-quality-and-complaints-commissioner http://www.montrealgazette.com/Pregnant+woman+sues+Batshaw+social+worker/7281624/story.html MOTHER OF 2 ................... WOULD YOU TRUST THIS AGENCY NEAR YOUR CHILDREN? @ Mother of 2

IS THIS WHAT YOU MEAN BY “”STANDING UP FOR THESE KIDS”"? I’VE READ YOUR POSTS SO FAR, AND HAVE NOTHING TO SAY AGAINST THEM OR ANYONE ELSE’S…….

BUT IF YOU ARE WILLING TO “”IGNORE THESE NEWS REPORTS”", THEN I WILL BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR BETTER JUDGEMENT: and even more so when it comes to the safety and welfare of your children
BUT IF YOU READ THESE NEWS REPORTS AND YOU THEREAFTER “ACT RESPONSIBLY”….. YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE THE ONES TO GAIN IN THE LONG RUN ! WHY JOIN A SINKING SHIP?

http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/quebec-foster-care-concerns/16az61g1n

http://www.wattpad.com/6830532-the-government%27s-child-chapter-twentysix-a-letter

http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8275037699/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/91121912@N04/8278947837/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://www.examiner.com/article/batshaw-the-office-of-the-local-service-quality-and-complaints-commissioner

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Pregnant+woman+sues+Batshaw+social+worker/7281624/story.html

MOTHER OF 2 ………………. WOULD YOU TRUST THIS AGENCY NEAR YOUR CHILDREN?

]]> By: Mother of 2 http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-14289 Mother of 2 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:54:55 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-14289 Dorval or no... Let me repeat what I said earlier..Say what you want.. Call me what you want, I know who I am and what kind of person I have become, and I sleep VERY well at night and am VERY proud of my life’s accomplishments. You know absolutely nothing about my children.. You wanna talk about bullies? You mean the residence of Dorval?Listen, somebody has to stand up for these kids and it obviously not the residence of Dorval. If she can't stand the heat she shouldn't be playing with matches and paper. Dorval or no… Let me repeat what I said earlier..Say what you want.. Call me what you want, I know who I am and what kind of person I have become, and I sleep VERY well at night and am VERY proud of my life’s accomplishments. You know absolutely nothing about my children..

You wanna talk about bullies? You mean the residence of Dorval?Listen, somebody has to stand up for these kids and it obviously not the residence of Dorval. If she can’t stand the heat she shouldn’t be playing with matches and paper.

]]> By: Mother of 2 http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-14281 Mother of 2 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:05:14 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-14281 Let’s be honest here and talk about what is REALLY about… Property values!!!! Let’s be honest here and talk about what is REALLY about… Property values!!!!

]]> By: Mother of 2 http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-14279 Mother of 2 Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:59:14 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-14279 Let's be honest here and talk about what cause you is REALLY going on here... Property values!!!! Let’s be honest here and talk about what cause you is REALLY going on here… Property values!!!!

]]> By: Facts! http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-14277 Facts! Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:50:47 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-14277 http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/dorval-residents-want-to-keep-young-offenders-away-1.1056303 http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/dorval-residents-want-to-keep-young-offenders-away-1.1056303

]]> By: Dorval or not http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-13973 Dorval or not Wed, 28 Nov 2012 04:07:44 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-13973 Mom of 2, I think with that kind of attitude, you are surely to pass it on to your kids. I certainly feel sorry for you. If anyone, with that foul mouth of yours, you really need to stop using this post to rant. I'm actually disgusted reading all your posts, but not surprised after reading about your past. I also want to correct you, and like the previous person said, you really need to get your facts straight. There are over 5000 people that have signed a petition against building this prison in Dorval. Other communities are now taking measures that this mess does not end up in their neighborhood. I guess you don't read the news! And yes, more youths are committing murder. I'm glad that you mention that here. If anything you are bringing more attention to the facts to the kind of criminals that will be housed in this prison of Dorval Batshaw. How would you like for your 2 children to grow up next door to this place? Well, nevermind, after reading your background and foul mouth here, I just got my answer. You are a bully! Your abusive! And we wonder why society needs facilities such as Batshaw! You are good example why. Good luck to you. Mom of 2, I think with that kind of attitude, you are surely to pass it on to your kids. I certainly feel sorry for you. If anyone, with that foul mouth of yours, you really need to stop using this post to rant. I’m actually disgusted reading all your posts, but not surprised after reading about your past. I also want to correct you, and like the previous person said, you really need to get your facts straight. There are over 5000 people that have signed a petition against building this prison in Dorval. Other communities are now taking measures that this mess does not end up in their neighborhood. I guess you don’t read the news! And yes, more youths are committing murder. I’m glad that you mention that here. If anything you are bringing more attention to the facts to the kind of criminals that will be housed in this prison of Dorval Batshaw. How would you like for your 2 children to grow up next door to this place? Well, nevermind, after reading your background and foul mouth here, I just got my answer. You are a bully! Your abusive! And we wonder why society needs facilities such as Batshaw! You are good example why. Good luck to you.

]]> By: Mom of 2 http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-13924 Mom of 2 Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:14:26 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-13924 LOL... Say what you want.. I am sitting here laughing at you. Call me what you want, I know who I am and what kind of person I have become, and I sleep VERY well at night and am VERY proud of my life's accomplishments. It must be really hard being you, that all you can do is rant on a website about what injustice this is to YOU, it obviously you are not speaking for you whole community, because they don't all agree with you.. Just like it was mentioned by a previous post "your exactly that, frustrated". Children are being convicted daily with murder, don't you watch the news? lol... Listen you loonie,all about contradicting yourself, you said it was going to be a "CLOSED" facility RIGHT.. If this is the case, they will not be walking the streets, so why are you so scared for the families and elderly? All your trying to do is raise mass hysteria for nothing. Since you know ALL about batshaw and have never lived there a day in your life because your a stuck up ***** Princess,and all those who have had difficulties in life deserve to disappear and should all die because there is no chance of rehabilitation. We live in Canada where people believe in REHABILITATION of our children, may I suggest you go live in a communist country where they share the belief that lynching children who have committed crimes because they have committed a crime which doesn't allow them to be constituted and human beings anymore!!! LOL… Say what you want.. I am sitting here laughing at you. Call me what you want, I know who I am and what kind of person I have become, and I sleep VERY well at night and am VERY proud of my life’s accomplishments. It must be really hard being you, that all you can do is rant on a website about what injustice this is to YOU, it obviously you are not speaking for you whole community, because they don’t all agree with you.. Just like it was mentioned by a previous post “your exactly that, frustrated”. Children are being convicted daily with murder, don’t you watch the news? lol… Listen you loonie,all about contradicting yourself, you said it was going to be a “CLOSED” facility RIGHT.. If this is the case, they will not be walking the streets, so why are you so scared for the families and elderly? All your trying to do is raise mass hysteria for nothing.

Since you know ALL about batshaw and have never lived there a day in your life because your a stuck up ***** Princess,and all those who have had difficulties in life deserve to disappear and should all die because there is no chance of rehabilitation. We live in Canada where people believe in REHABILITATION of our children, may I suggest you go live in a communist country where they share the belief that lynching children who have committed crimes because they have committed a crime which doesn’t allow them to be constituted and human beings anymore!!!

]]> By: Frustrated! http://westislandgazette.com/blog/just-between-us/story/2012/10/17/would-you-want-a-locked-youth-detention-centre-in-your-neighbourhood/#comment-13759 Frustrated! Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:45:05 +0000 http://westislandgazette.com/?p=115579#comment-13759 Well, I can see HOW WELL rehabilitation has done for you! You definitely have anger issues! WOW, Mother of 2!!! And before you confuse everyone even more, if you were there from 1991-1993, you are just confirming to everyone, that this was an open unit facility. The facility that is there now, is and has been for decades, an open unit and NO ONE is disputing that. And as confirmed by Batshaw (Pascale Berardino, coordinator of legal services), the closed custody unit that will be built, will be housing criminal youths, that is youths who have been found guilty of violent crimes and sentenced under the Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA). And that includes murder! You might want to get your facts straight, Oh, and by the way, I have never spent any time in any of these facilities, so technically you are the one that crawled out from under a rock and not me. Well, I can see HOW WELL rehabilitation has done for you! You definitely have anger issues! WOW, Mother of 2!!! And before you confuse everyone even more, if you were there from 1991-1993, you are just confirming to everyone, that this was an open unit facility. The facility that is there now, is and has been for decades, an open unit and NO ONE is disputing that. And as confirmed by Batshaw (Pascale Berardino, coordinator of legal services), the closed custody unit that will be built, will be housing criminal youths, that is youths who have been found guilty of violent crimes and sentenced under the Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA). And that includes murder! You might want to get your facts straight, Oh, and by the way, I have never spent any time in any of these facilities, so technically you are the one that crawled out from under a rock and not me.

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