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	<title>Comments on: Reinstate night curfew at airport, residents tell MP</title>
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		<title>By: cassandra fp</title>
		<link>http://westislandgazette.com/news/story/2012/09/19/reinstate-night-curfew-at-airport-residents-tell-mp/#comment-5590</link>
		<dc:creator>cassandra fp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again that manipulation ...Move!!!!Don&#039;t built your house near an aeroport..too easy and wellknown argument ...
.Are you paid by ADM??????
My house (that I bought in 2001)  in ville St Laurent was built in 1951 and restored by me . I came in 2000  in Quebec throug a quite modern and   very important aeroport named «Mirabel » .No one said to me  (big TABOU-taxe «Bienvenu» ) that aeroport wiil be removed in the west  island of Montreal in 2004 ,just because of air Canada who did&#039;nt want his technics services to remove in Mirabel .... . Undreground  railway station was finished  and the aeroport could  be easily be relied to downtown ,,, No where in the world an aeroport is coming back in the center .It&#039;s just a financial and politic reason .At the beginning of XX1 e century no bigs jobs ...so , the same consortiums :SNC-LAVALIN,DESSAU,CIMA+ ,AXOR  needed to be helped  .With results : all scandals nowwadays we know  ...and politic  benefic for Toronto  because Trudeau-PET  is less important ...
Mrs Morin  just continue Mrs Jeninings (PL) and Mourani(B.Q) efforts to obtain a federal commision about Trudeau PET&#039;s aeroport and genrally noises af all aeroports in Canada ....juste before federal elections with results we know...
The question is : how much citizens&#039; money was given and will  give actually(4,5 billions???) for that awful and unpractlcal  aeroport..Just thinking which part of island wiil use that aerotrain that James Cherry wants absolutly built with 600millions from federal and provincial  .I travelled two months in Europe ,,,I can say that ,unhappily ,this aeroport is far from the most modern aeroports and their  falicities (train ,metro ...)One scandal more ...As Carl said ,it&#039;s time to think not only economics interests who definitly go to crisis and scandals  but way of life and  environnement protection...Noisy city must finish and we must think again what kind of city we want  for future ...Open your mind and your eyes or just travel in comparative countries in the wolrd...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again that manipulation &#8230;Move!!!!Don&#8217;t built your house near an aeroport..too easy and wellknown argument &#8230;<br />
.Are you paid by ADM??????<br />
My house (that I bought in 2001)  in ville St Laurent was built in 1951 and restored by me . I came in 2000  in Quebec throug a quite modern and   very important aeroport named «Mirabel » .No one said to me  (big TABOU-taxe «Bienvenu» ) that aeroport wiil be removed in the west  island of Montreal in 2004 ,just because of air Canada who did&#8217;nt want his technics services to remove in Mirabel &#8230;. . Undreground  railway station was finished  and the aeroport could  be easily be relied to downtown ,,, No where in the world an aeroport is coming back in the center .It&#8217;s just a financial and politic reason .At the beginning of XX1 e century no bigs jobs &#8230;so , the same consortiums :SNC-LAVALIN,DESSAU,CIMA+ ,AXOR  needed to be helped  .With results : all scandals nowwadays we know  &#8230;and politic  benefic for Toronto  because Trudeau-PET  is less important &#8230;<br />
Mrs Morin  just continue Mrs Jeninings (PL) and Mourani(B.Q) efforts to obtain a federal commision about Trudeau PET&#8217;s aeroport and genrally noises af all aeroports in Canada &#8230;.juste before federal elections with results we know&#8230;<br />
The question is : how much citizens&#8217; money was given and will  give actually(4,5 billions???) for that awful and unpractlcal  aeroport..Just thinking which part of island wiil use that aerotrain that James Cherry wants absolutly built with 600millions from federal and provincial  .I travelled two months in Europe ,,,I can say that ,unhappily ,this aeroport is far from the most modern aeroports and their  falicities (train ,metro &#8230;)One scandal more &#8230;As Carl said ,it&#8217;s time to think not only economics interests who definitly go to crisis and scandals  but way of life and  environnement protection&#8230;Noisy city must finish and we must think again what kind of city we want  for future &#8230;Open your mind and your eyes or just travel in comparative countries in the wolrd&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://westislandgazette.com/news/story/2012/09/19/reinstate-night-curfew-at-airport-residents-tell-mp/#comment-5588</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, lets also talk to the cites and not allow police and fire trucks use their sirens after 11:00 pm too even if your place is roasting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, lets also talk to the cites and not allow police and fire trucks use their sirens after 11:00 pm too even if your place is roasting</p>
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		<title>By: Josette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg - Carl is absolutely right.  When you have over 700 airline movements over the city (that is only commercial airlines, not what ADM calls general aviation, of which there are plenty more, making the numbers probably closer to 1000 per day altogether), it means hell for many even in the daytime, but at night it is disastrous because the background noise is highly reduced and the planes are heard probably at the equivalent of 3-4 times more than the daytime &quot;perception&quot; of noise.  If the wind turns to boot, the same area gets the brunt of it with both arrivals and departures.  You may know nothing about the effect of winds on aircraft departures or arrivals, but I believe you do.  People have to live somewhere, according to what they can afford, whether house or apartment.
Remember that we had a perfectly wonderful airport and that pilots were much happier landing and taking off from Mirabel than from Dorval because the buffer zone was not populated with thousands and thousands of people.  Curfews exist, draconian ones too, in certain European cities: why not in Montreal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg &#8211; Carl is absolutely right.  When you have over 700 airline movements over the city (that is only commercial airlines, not what ADM calls general aviation, of which there are plenty more, making the numbers probably closer to 1000 per day altogether), it means hell for many even in the daytime, but at night it is disastrous because the background noise is highly reduced and the planes are heard probably at the equivalent of 3-4 times more than the daytime &#8220;perception&#8221; of noise.  If the wind turns to boot, the same area gets the brunt of it with both arrivals and departures.  You may know nothing about the effect of winds on aircraft departures or arrivals, but I believe you do.  People have to live somewhere, according to what they can afford, whether house or apartment.<br />
Remember that we had a perfectly wonderful airport and that pilots were much happier landing and taking off from Mirabel than from Dorval because the buffer zone was not populated with thousands and thousands of people.  Curfews exist, draconian ones too, in certain European cities: why not in Montreal?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We bought in 1981 when Mirabel was to be the International (and future) airport and when there was a curfew at Dorval from 11 pm to 7 am.   We pay top $ taxes yet are disturbed by noisy aircraft after 1am and again before 6am as we keep our windows open (no airconditioning as not needed when we built).  Selling is not an option as our children grew up in this house which we don&#039;t want to leave but for which we are paying a price with the deterioration of our health.  Getting less than 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep is a hazzard that PE Trudeau airport is causing!  Reinstating the curfew will cause minor inconvenience to AirCanada &amp; business travellers leaving early/arriving late, but will restore the quality of life that Dorval residents have been paying for, yet not receiving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We bought in 1981 when Mirabel was to be the International (and future) airport and when there was a curfew at Dorval from 11 pm to 7 am.   We pay top $ taxes yet are disturbed by noisy aircraft after 1am and again before 6am as we keep our windows open (no airconditioning as not needed when we built).  Selling is not an option as our children grew up in this house which we don&#8217;t want to leave but for which we are paying a price with the deterioration of our health.  Getting less than 5 hours of uninterrupted sleep is a hazzard that PE Trudeau airport is causing!  Reinstating the curfew will cause minor inconvenience to AirCanada &amp; business travellers leaving early/arriving late, but will restore the quality of life that Dorval residents have been paying for, yet not receiving.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg: The problem is that these days, you don&#039;t even to buy a house &quot;near&quot; the airport to be bothered. Maybe planes were noisier before, but now with the increasingly number of flights going everywhere over the west island and other parts of the Montreal island, it just makes it insanely worst year after year. Economy is important but is not the only thing that matters, as opposed to what you may think...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg: The problem is that these days, you don&#8217;t even to buy a house &#8220;near&#8221; the airport to be bothered. Maybe planes were noisier before, but now with the increasingly number of flights going everywhere over the west island and other parts of the Montreal island, it just makes it insanely worst year after year. Economy is important but is not the only thing that matters, as opposed to what you may think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 03:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bought a house next to an airport what did you expect?  Today&#039;s modern jet engines are getting quieter and quieter. Too bad we can&#039;t send these people back 30-40 years ago when you had actual noisy aircraft such as DC-8s, DC-9s, Super Connies, 727s, VC10s and all of the rest.  Any airport curfew is laughable, how can the economy grow when a draconian  11pm-7am curfew is imposed. 

You could always move out if you want quite, property in that area of town is selling for a premium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bought a house next to an airport what did you expect?  Today&#8217;s modern jet engines are getting quieter and quieter. Too bad we can&#8217;t send these people back 30-40 years ago when you had actual noisy aircraft such as DC-8s, DC-9s, Super Connies, 727s, VC10s and all of the rest.  Any airport curfew is laughable, how can the economy grow when a draconian  11pm-7am curfew is imposed. </p>
<p>You could always move out if you want quite, property in that area of town is selling for a premium.</p>
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